80. Practicing Empathy & Grace

Welcome back, Listeners! In today’s episode, Karen and Katie discuss the importance of empathy when approaching/talking to other people, and the fact that you never know what others are going through. As Neil deGrasse Tyson says, “We are, each of us, a little universe.” Karen discusses what her life has been like lately, Katie gets into how empathy has presented itself in her marriage and the pair also talks in depth about the concept of giving ourselves grace when things don’t go to plan. This is an amazing episode that also covers topics like leg warmers, onboarding for Trader Joe’s cashiers and more. You won’t want to miss it.

Thank you for listening – we appreciate each one of you so much!

Resources from today’s episode:

– Please check out the obituary of Annie Pearl Cole, Karen’s late grandmother: https://www.thompsonandsonfuneralhome.com/obituary/annie-cole

– Turns out ‘humaning’ is a term – yikes: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Humaning

79. (MINI POD) Teen Vogue Q&A

Happy Mid-March, Listeners! In today’s episode, Karen and Katie ask each other impromptu questions from a Teen Vogue article. We learn about their most embarrassing moments (let’s just say sex and sweating are involved in very a few unfortunate scenarios!) and other fabulous facts like their favorite podcasts and more.

We hope you enjoy – thanks for listening!

Resources from this week’s episode:

– Check out the 5 Love Languages: https://www.5lovelanguages.com/learn

– Looking for a dance song? Listen to Diana Ross’s “If The World Just Danced” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZafKchoygo

– Check out Esther Perel’s amazing podcast “Where Should We Begin?” https://whereshouldwebegin.estherperel.com/

78. Living Life On Your Schedule

Happy Almost-International Women’s Day, Listeners! In this week’s show, Karen and Katie give a much-deserved shout-out to the 10th anniversary of Karen’s creation, Rebellious Magazine For Women! They talk about how amazing Rebellious is, Katie explains that she’s had a horrible mental health day and how talking to Karen helped fish her out of the gutter, and one of Karen’s cats tries to climb the walls.

The duo then gets into a conversation about giving ourselves permission to live life on our own schedules. Karen keeps the conversation current while Katie goes full-on extensional crisis on us.

We hope you enjoy and have a good week!

Resources from today’s show:

Check out Rebellious Magazine For Women: https://rebelliousmagazine.com/

Donate to Rebellious Magazine’s 10th Anniversary Indiegogo campaign through May 4, 2022: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/rebellious-magazine-s-10th-anniversary#/

Read all about Michael Neill’s Three Principles framework: https://www.michaelneill.org/the-three-principles/

77. Reasons To Smile

Happy Monday, Listeners, and welcome to an episode all about positivity! On today’s show, Karen and Katie chat about the importance of focusing on the things that are bringing lightness into our lives. Even when things around us may not be going to plan (and the news is rough), the pair discuss how noticing the things that bring joy can really lighten the load. 

Thanks for listening – we hope you enjoy!

Resources from today’s episode: 

– Check out the GoFundMe page for Twisted Hippo Brewery, a beloved Chicago spot that recently burned down (in Karen’s neighborhood) https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-twisted-hippo

– Make sure to listen to Wokefield!, an amazing podcast with a recent episode featuring our very own Karen Hawkins! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wow-dating-was-also-terrible-in-the-90s/id1537508674?i=1000552009361

76. (MINI POD) “Life is Not a Race”

Happy Monday, Listeners, and thanks for tuning in! In this week’s mini pod, Karen and Katie chat about how problematic a sense of urgency is in our work and personal lives. They also talk about how “life is not a race” and how taking things a bit slower can be better for ourselves and others.

We hope you enjoy this episode – thanks for listening!

75. Galentines Day & Heart-Shaped Salami with Ginger Buddha

OhMyGooooddddnnneeeesss, FOLKS! (insert excited screaming here) Today’s show is one of our best ever because we have on the one, the only, the incomparable….GINGER BUDDHA (a.k.a Tori Ulrich) on the show!

Karen, Katie, and Tori get into a lively conversation about female friendship – a convo that reveals itself to be one of our most deep and revealing yet. It is one you will not want to miss, and, as Karen explains, is a “master class in what it is to be a good friend.” The trio also chats about what it is like to have red hair (some shockers there), the untruthful portrayal of female friendships in the media, and how celebrating our female friends is always an excellent idea (on Galentines Day – Feb. 13) and every other day of the year.

We hope you love this one as much as we enjoyed recording it. Huge thanks to Ginger Buddha for chatting with us!

74. Embracing Your Uniqueness

Happy Monday, Listeners! On this week’s show, Karen and Katie chat about how important it is to embrace what makes each of us unique. Toss aside social conditioning, crappy comments from past loves/friends/colleagues, and think about what makes you YOU! Let your freak flag fly, Friends!

In addition to discussing this soul-nourishing topic, the pair also talk about some Hollywood heartthrobs of the late 90s and question where they are now and how old they might be (spoiler alert: Jude Law is only 49! WTAF.)

Thanks for listening, enjoy!

Resources from today’s episode:

– Check out The Happiness Project by Gretchen Rubin: https://the-happiness-project.com/

– And follow Gretchen on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gretchenrubin/?hl=en

73. Ideas for Exhaustion

Good morning, Listeners, and welcome to SEASON 7! This week, Karen and Katie are discussing exhaustion, and how common of a feeling it is right now. The pair discuss an amazing Harvard Business Review piece about what to do when in survival mode – get ready to take notes! They also chat about how bears can teach us a lot about resting, and Karen brings back the 90s with a mini-rendition of Lovefool by The Cardigans. 

We are sending you all love, light, and energy for the week – thanks for listening!


– Listen to Lovefool by The Cardigans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI6aOFI7hms

– Check out the book Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times: https://bookshop.org/books/wintering-the-power-of-rest-and-retreat-in-difficult-times/9780593189481

– Take a look at the Harvard Business Review piece ‘What to Do When You’re Stuck In The Survival Zone’ by Tony Schwartz: https://hbr.org/2022/01/what-to-do-when-youre-stuck-in-the-survival-zone

72. (MINI POD) Making Time For Art

Happy Monday, Listeners! On today’s mini pod, Karen and Katie chat about how great it feels to make time for art, whatever that means to you. Even if it is five minutes in a day where you do the thing that makes you feel good, it is worth it!

Thanks for listening – enjoy!


71. Reimagining Dualistic Thinking with Dr. Tania Israel

The fabulous Dr. Tania Israel is BAAACCCKK!!! On this week’s show, Karen and Katie get into a really exciting conversation with Dr. Israel about dualistic thinking (otherwise known as ‘right/wrong’ thinking), and how critical and nuanced ways of thinking/seeing the world can help us all. 

The trio also picks up last week’s conversation about bidets, Katie discusses her wedding ring melodrama and Dr. Israel offers TONS of amazing resources for listeners looking to heal dualistic thoughts. 

Thanks for listening – Enjoy!

Resources from today’s episode: 

– Check out Dr. Israel’s book Beyond Your Bubble: https://taniaisrael.com/beyond-your-bubble-book/

– Dr. Israel’s latest article on vaccines:

– And her podcast Prajna Sparks: https://www.prajnafire.com/sparks

– Make sure to follow Dr. Israel on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bybdialogue/?hl=en

– And Twitter: https://twitter.com/BYBdialogue?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

– Check out StoryCorps: https://storycorps.org/

– Check out Love Has No Labels: https://lovehasnolabels.com/onesmallstep?gclid=CjwKCAiA_omPBhBBEiwAcg7smVn6t-_ApK8kmSHWYibgleUFeh-fgFyluIn3pc87nVVbHjFJp2AZ8hoC0uIQAvD_BwE

– And Living Room Conversations: https://livingroomconversations.org/

– Braver Angels: https://braverangels.org/

– And Civil Squared: https://civilsquared.org/