
Of Course I’m Not OK: The Podcast

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Hosted by Karen Hawkins and Katie Morell, writers & longtime friends, this podcast explores mental health, creativity, & coping with quarantine.
The goal: to help people feel less alone, share stores, & create connection.
Latest Episodes
84. “Be Yourself No Matter What They Say”
Happy Monday, Listeners! On today’s mini-pod, Karen and Katie are taking a page from the great work of Sting (swoon) and…More
Listen83. Knowing When To Tap Out
Happy Monday, Listeners, and welcome to installment #2 of our five-part mini-pod series while Katie is out of town! In this…More
Listen82. Spring Fever
Happy Monday, Listeners! On this week’s pod, Karen and Katie chat about a few of the hormonal changes that happen to…More
Listen81. Religion
Happy Monday, Listeners! On this week’s show, Karen and Katie chat all about religion. They discuss finding out about their friends’…More
Listen80. Practicing Empathy & Grace
Welcome back, Listeners! In today’s episode, Karen and Katie discuss the importance of empathy when approaching/talking to other people, and the…More
Listen79. (MINI POD) Teen Vogue Q&A
Happy Mid-March, Listeners! In today’s episode, Karen and Katie ask each other impromptu questions from a Teen Vogue article. We learn…More
ListenMeet Our Hosts

Karen Hawkins
Karen Hawkins is co-publisher and co-editor-in-chief of the Chicago Reader, and founder of Rebellious Magazine for Women and the Feminist Media Foundation. She is also the co-host of two podcasts: Of Course I’m Not OK and Feminist Erotica. She is also a longtime mentor and national board member for NLGJA: The Association of LGBTQ Journalists. She is a frequent and enthusiastic speaker about newsroom diversity, LGBTQ+ issues, and feminism. Karen lives in Chicago with her two elderly cats.

Katie Morell
Katie Morell is a journalist, workshop facilitator, podcaster, and mental health advocate who lives in Bend, Oregon. In addition to writing articles for a variety of publications, she coaches writers, facilitates Joy & Vulnerability Virtual Writing Workshops; pens a monthly newsletter about joy, pain, and vulnerability called Rainbows & Shitpiles; writes a newsletter about her professional life called The Katie Morell Weekly(ish); and co-hosts a mental health/humor podcast called Of Course I’m Not OK.