Of Course I’m Not OK: The Podcast

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Hosted by Karen Hawkins and Katie Morell, writers & longtime friends, this podcast explores mental health, creativity, & coping with quarantine.

The goal: to help people feel less alone, share stores, & create connection.

Latest Episodes

55. Not Dreaming of Labor (Day)

Happy Labor Day, Listeners! Today, Karen and Katie discuss their thoughts around Labor Day, what Labor Day means in 2021, and how people can find their passions in life. Thanks for listening! More


54. MINI POD: Delta Real Talk

Hellloooo Listeners – we hope you are all doing well this week. In today’s episode, Karen and Katie get real in how they are feeling about recent news/world events, including the current Delta spike. More


53. The Case Against Multitasking

Get ready, Listeners, because Karen & Katie get INTO it in this episode on multitasking. The duo chat about a wide variety of topics, triggers, and tips to help others who also struggle with the issue.More


Meet Our Hosts

Karen Hawkins

Karen Hawkins is co-publisher and co-editor-in-chief of the Chicago Reader, and founder of Rebellious Magazine for Women and the Feminist Media Foundation. She is also the co-host of two podcasts: Of Course I’m Not OK and Feminist Erotica. She is also a longtime mentor and national board member for NLGJA: The Association of LGBTQ Journalists. She is a frequent and enthusiastic speaker about newsroom diversity, LGBTQ+ issues, and feminism. Karen lives in Chicago with her two elderly cats.

Katie Morell

Katie Morell is a journalist, workshop facilitator, podcaster, and mental health advocate who lives in Bend, Oregon. In addition to writing articles for a variety of publications, she coaches writers, facilitates Joy & Vulnerability Virtual Writing Workshops; pens a monthly newsletter about joy, pain, and vulnerability called Rainbows & Shitpiles; writes a newsletter about her professional life called The Katie Morell Weekly(ish); and co-hosts a mental health/humor podcast called Of Course I’m Not OK.

Of Course I’m Not OK