Of Course I’m Not OK: The Podcast

Hosted by Karen Hawkins and Katie Morell, writers & longtime friends, this podcast explores mental health, creativity, & coping with quarantine.

The goal: to help people feel less alone, share stores, & create connection.

Latest Episodes

89. Check Yo’ Self

Get ready for a fun episode, Listeners! On today’s show, Karen and Katie go on a series of wild tangents that…


87. Summer Bucket Lists

Hellllooooo, Listeners, and welcome to another thrilling installment of the pod! On this week’s show, Karen and Katie catch up after…


86. Beauty As Therapy

Happy Monday, Listeners! On today’s mini pod (#5 in our 5-part series – YOU MADE IT!), Karen and Katie discuss how…


85. Good Surprises

Hello, Listeners, and thanks for tuning in! On this week’s mini-pod (series #4 of 5), Karen and Katie discuss good surprises…


Meet Our Hosts

Karen Hawkins

Karen Hawkins is co-publisher and co-editor-in-chief of the Chicago Reader, and founder of Rebellious Magazine for Women and the Feminist Media Foundation. She is also the co-host of two podcasts: Of Course I’m Not OK and Feminist Erotica. She is also a longtime mentor and national board member for NLGJA: The Association of LGBTQ Journalists. She is a frequent and enthusiastic speaker about newsroom diversity, LGBTQ+ issues, and feminism. Karen lives in Chicago with her two elderly cats.

Katie Morell

Katie Morell is a journalist, workshop facilitator, podcaster, and mental health advocate who lives in Bend, Oregon. In addition to writing articles for a variety of publications, she coaches writers, facilitates Joy & Vulnerability Virtual Writing Workshops; pens a monthly newsletter about joy, pain, and vulnerability called Rainbows & Shitpiles; writes a newsletter about her professional life called The Katie Morell Weekly(ish); and co-hosts a mental health/humor podcast called Of Course I’m Not OK.

Of Course I’m Not OK